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Scaling NBS with Kahlil Baker│ What goes up must come down, Episode 3

Nature-based solutions (NbS) are emerging as a vital component in the fight against climate change. In a recent conversation with Kahlil Baker, CEO of Taking Root, we unpacked the significance of NbS, the challenges of centralised versus decentralised reforestation efforts, and the importance of community engagement. Here’s a deep dive into the world of NbS and how nature can play a crucial role in tackling climate change effectively.

Joanna Liu

Joanna Liu

Junior Marketing Associate at Klimate

Unlocking the Power of Nature-Based Solutions for Climate Action

Introduction

In the ongoing battle against climate change, nature-based solutions (NbS) have emerged as a crucial strategy for carbon removal and ecosystem restoration. By leveraging the natural processes of our planet, we can sequester carbon, restore biodiversity, and engage communities in meaningful ways. In our latest podcast featuring Kahlil Baker, CEO of Taking Root, we explore the importance of NbS, the differences between centralised and decentralised reforestation efforts, and the significance of community engagement in these projects.

TL;DR

  • Understanding nature-based solutions and their role in carbon removal.
  • The critical differences between centralised and decentralised reforestation efforts.
  • The importance of community engagement in successful NbS projects.
  • How economic incentives can align land use with environmental benefits.
  • The role of local partnerships in building trust and ensuring project success.

Why Nature-Based Solutions Matter

Nature-based solutions are essential in the fight against climate change because they allow nature to do the heavy lifting. Through photosynthesis, plants remove carbon dioxide from the atmosphere and store it in their biomass. However, the conversation around climate change often focuses narrowly on carbon concentrations, neglecting the broader roles that ecosystems play in climate stabilization, such as regulating water cycles and cooling the planet.

"If we built machines that removed all the parts per million to where we wanted to 350 or whatever, I still think we'd have a climate crisis on our hands."
- Kahlil Baker, CEO of Taking Roots

Centralized vs. Decentralized Approaches

When it comes to reforestation, two primary approaches exist: centralized and decentralized. Centralized efforts often involve acquiring large tracts of land and implementing reforestation without local input. While this method simplifies logistics, it can ignore the socioeconomic realities of local communities. On the other hand, decentralized approaches empower local farmers and land managers to engage in reforestation on their own terms.

This decentralized model has proven effective in scaling restoration initiatives, as it taps into the existing knowledge and practices of local communities. By encouraging participation and collaboration, we can achieve not only carbon sequestration but also additional benefits that enhance local livelihoods.

Community Engagement: The Heart of Successful Projects

Community engagement is vital for the success of nature-based solutions. Engaging local stakeholders ensures that projects are designed with their needs and livelihoods in mind. By conducting community consultations, we can tailor restoration projects to align with local economic activities, whether it's cattle ranching, coffee production, or agroforestry.

"You want to create a program for it to be successful; a lot of people need to buy into it."
- Kahlil Baker

Building Trust and Ensuring Success

Trust is a fundamental component of successful community engagement. Working with local partners who understand the cultural context and existing social dynamics is crucial. These partnerships not only facilitate trust but also help navigate the complexities of local land-use patterns.

Moreover, it’s important to recognize that while carbon credits are a transactional unit, the broader goals of these projects often extend beyond carbon sequestration. Addressing biodiversity loss, improving local livelihoods, and enhancing ecosystem services are all critical components that can be integrated into carbon market projects.

Conclusion

Nature-based solutions offer a promising pathway in our fight against climate change, but their success hinges on understanding local contexts and fostering community engagement. By embracing decentralized approaches and building trust, we can unlock the full potential of NbS to create resilient ecosystems and empower communities. As we move forward, it's essential to remember that effective climate action requires not just innovative technology but also the wisdom and participation of the communities that live alongside nature.

To follow along with future episodes or keep on listening, find us here: https://klimate.podbean.com/

Our podcasts are also available on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.

Joanna Liu

Joanna Liu

Junior Marketing Associate at Klimate

Joanna is a Master's student in African Studies at the University of Copenhagen, specialising in climate change and green transitions across Africa. Her passion for climate-related issues led her to conduct fieldwork in Bagamoyo, Tanzania, where she examined the effects of climate change on rural farmers.

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